tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6346409181794331060.post3336476569362940301..comments2024-03-20T12:35:12.828-04:00Comments on The Text of the Gospels: The Role of Tradition in New Testament Textual CriticismJames Snapp Jrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09493891380752272603noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6346409181794331060.post-13333573329939783152020-02-03T07:19:37.827-05:002020-02-03T07:19:37.827-05:00This discussion was fabulous to watch, so thanks f...This discussion was fabulous to watch, so thanks for giving us the opportunity to do so. As others have remarked, I too was impressed by James's patience in not talking over the other two who tended to dominate the discussion a bit. I found Jeff Riddle's position to be confusing and frustrating in the extreme, especially when he cast some pretty serious aspersions on James and Peter's "negative influence" on others in the church. Whereas Peter and James obviously disagree on several points, both of them were quite concerned with actual evidence in the manuscripts, while Jeff continually fell back on the TR as a providentially preserved text, ignoring (or flat out rejecting) James and Peter's sensible objections to that position. Still, it was a fascinating conversation to follow. Well done!Cory Howellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14473713321847744356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6346409181794331060.post-11545988685851688702020-01-30T14:36:43.692-05:002020-01-30T14:36:43.692-05:00I agree with both of Timothy Joseph's comments...I agree with both of Timothy Joseph's comments above, especially about your courtesy and patience, and the observation that you and Peter are much closer in your approaches to textual criticism than either of you are to Jeff. Jeff made it increasingly clear that he does not believe in textual criticism as textual criticism since the "text" itself, like the confessions he adheres to were "frozen" in time in the 17th century. Jeff was quite plain in insisting that the "received" or confessional text is not subject to criticism or revision, and that the textual basis is studied only for historical purposes. I thought that your concluding remarks especially were well done. Peter's questions of Jeff were spot on, and not answered persuasively if at all by Jeff to the point that Peter had to ask how they can even converse on the subject. What you and Peter agreed on in your various "eclecticisms" ended up being in sharp contrast to Jeff's confessional "closed door" to textual criticism.Pastor Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08903772661237511780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6346409181794331060.post-84625315391267356352020-01-30T12:16:30.651-05:002020-01-30T12:16:30.651-05:00James,
Just a thought from viewing the 2nd video a...James,<br />Just a thought from viewing the 2nd video as well. JTR has shown over many articles and videos that while evidence doesn’t matter in his view, he is not above joining with those who do use evidence, such as you, to appear to believe evidence matters. This is what he did on the inclusion of the PA. You both may include the PA as scripture, but you do it based on evidence, JTR does not. I think in this case, you allowed your certainty on the PA, to blind you to the fact that you and PG are closer on the basis for including or excluding the PA than either of you are to JTR believing the PA is scripture. I wish you had joined PG on pushing the point of the differences in the printed TR’s instead😎<br />TimTimothy Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06641788186736340533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6346409181794331060.post-59921147537889431152020-01-30T11:45:33.570-05:002020-01-30T11:45:33.570-05:00James,
First, obviously you have been raised to no...James,<br />First, obviously you have been raised to not talk over others, which is a beautiful thing! Second, it is apparent that all the evidence ever in existence would not matter to JTR and other ‘confessional text’ proponents. The actual position they hold is ‘reformation era printed text’ is the actual God-Breathed scripture based solely on it being printed during the Reformation! Third, while while I hold to different text critical method than you or PG, I believe all three of our positions are based on empirical evidence and the differences are how we interpret the evidence. <br />TimTimothy Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06641788186736340533noreply@blogger.com